The key to Hanson's success?
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armanyaI have been musing on this for a while, but today reading this article brought the question up for me again. What was it that made Hanson so popular, so huge - that no band since have been able to replicate quite the same success? Dropping record saled being a trend notwithstanding, Hanson still have the record for the loudest (a record previously held by The Who) and the largest audience - proving that they inspired mania on a scale that we have not seen since.
It's tempting to say that they were young teens themselves, the same age as their target audience - and let's face it they were never bad looking guys, and that this is the only secret to their success. But if it was, surely the young disney stars of today should all inspire the same obsession, the same huge following?
But you know, their youth is one half of the key to their success I think. The second half? The fact that unlike child stars of today, and many child stars of the past, Hanson's music remained relatively untarnished by adult hands. They wrote the songs - songs with lyrics that their target audience could relate to, because they were actually written by people the same age. Really, I think this is where all the record company suits that are obviously churning out pre teen popstars in and effort to replicate the success of days gone by go wrong. If you have adults write the songs, teens are not automatically going to relate to them because you put someone that age on stage singing it.
And you know what? I have come to realize that the same fact is the reason that Hanson have had <i>lasting</i> success. While most young bands that remain on big labels never seem to grow up - the preferred strategy being to cash in on their youthful cuteness and then ditch them to find some new twinkle eyed toddlers to exploit - Hanson have always fought for their music and continued to grow both as song writers and musicians. Meaning that they grew up with the fans and continued to stay relevant to their audience.
I guess it sort of baffles me that the big record label executives have yet to realize this fact. It sort of proves that to major labels, musicians and pop acts are a mere commodity, and an esily replacable one at that. The way to go is to get as much sucess as possible and milk it until the audience grows out of it, then find a new similar artist to appeal to the next generation. (Because, let's face it, kids are normally not going to find it cool to listen to the same things as their parents or older siblings.)
I kind of hope that sometime in the near future, the music industry will be forced to reform and go back to valuing real, lasting, timeless music instead of passing fads.
(Yeah I have no clue what the point of this ramble was... merely an exercise in creative writing, perhaps)
It's tempting to say that they were young teens themselves, the same age as their target audience - and let's face it they were never bad looking guys, and that this is the only secret to their success. But if it was, surely the young disney stars of today should all inspire the same obsession, the same huge following?
But you know, their youth is one half of the key to their success I think. The second half? The fact that unlike child stars of today, and many child stars of the past, Hanson's music remained relatively untarnished by adult hands. They wrote the songs - songs with lyrics that their target audience could relate to, because they were actually written by people the same age. Really, I think this is where all the record company suits that are obviously churning out pre teen popstars in and effort to replicate the success of days gone by go wrong. If you have adults write the songs, teens are not automatically going to relate to them because you put someone that age on stage singing it.
And you know what? I have come to realize that the same fact is the reason that Hanson have had <i>lasting</i> success. While most young bands that remain on big labels never seem to grow up - the preferred strategy being to cash in on their youthful cuteness and then ditch them to find some new twinkle eyed toddlers to exploit - Hanson have always fought for their music and continued to grow both as song writers and musicians. Meaning that they grew up with the fans and continued to stay relevant to their audience.
I guess it sort of baffles me that the big record label executives have yet to realize this fact. It sort of proves that to major labels, musicians and pop acts are a mere commodity, and an esily replacable one at that. The way to go is to get as much sucess as possible and milk it until the audience grows out of it, then find a new similar artist to appeal to the next generation. (Because, let's face it, kids are normally not going to find it cool to listen to the same things as their parents or older siblings.)
I kind of hope that sometime in the near future, the music industry will be forced to reform and go back to valuing real, lasting, timeless music instead of passing fads.
(Yeah I have no clue what the point of this ramble was... merely an exercise in creative writing, perhaps)
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Date: 2010-07-09 10:58 am (UTC)It's true the industry is not only image-driven, but single-driven: just maximize as much as they can from an artist, toss them away, then find the next replica. The funny thing is, they say audiences are getting more savvy (no longer will a big music magazine ad saying "This group is HOT" or just getting it on radio work, and cause people to blindly buy it - people find out about it through word of mouth, social networking, sample tracks to find out for themselves, read all the reviews online from around the world, etc.) so are better able to sort through the junk. So it's thought perhaps it might swing the other way to more authenticity. On the other hand, they're still churning out lots of clones.
When you talk about Hanson and longevity and the fans sticking with them, I always think about how they're in it for the long career arc and not just a(nother) quickie single success. But the funny thing is, one smash single could bring them a new fanbase, reunite the old who'd lost touch, etc. It's still important. I thought they were a little hard on producer Bob Marlette's theory in "SETB" about how concentrating on just "One song, one really great song" could have so much open up. The guy from Third Eye Blind says it also, that SPIN magazine might do a piece on them and their return and perseverance and "People will remember you from when they were kids, and go 'These guys are really, the SHIT!'".
Somebody like The Jonas Brothers are a funny case, because they fit so much of what you talk about - "get as much success as possible and milk it", the singing of songs written by adults, "churning out pre teen popstars" (in this case, Disney, the masters of all that marketing), "cash in on their youthful cuteness", etc. But funny enough they're also "diversified" - they're not just doing music, but concert tours/concert movies, a steady TV show, TV movies, "Idol" judging, book memoirs, jumping aboard social media, Nick's side project/band, and whatever else. Try to think of an area the Jonas Bros. haven't been strategically slotted into. This is sort of a funny contradiction to me - it can show an aggressive marketing plan to try to connect with everywhere their audience is, but it also shows, maybe, some longer-term development where you don't sink all the eggs in one basket. Do I think Disney is thinking of the Jonas' long-term career arc, and not burning them out with overexposure right away? Maybe, maybe not. Maybe it's just extending the milking of fans.
This might be random, but you know what I was thinking of the other day? The old promotional tagline that started appearance on Hanson's early industry promos for the album and "MMMBop" single - "Where music is headed". I to this day sort of like the directional thrust of that; forward-looking and at the front of a trend. Maybe it's just a savvy marketing phrase to cash in on their youth and inexperience.
Zoomity zooming in...
By the way, you might really like the music documentary, "Before The Music Dies" (trailer is below) which wrestles with these kinds of questions - where the industry is ahead, what's "product" and what's real, what artists could make it today, how technology is impacting, and so forth. It's one of the best music documentaries I've seen. In fact I make (heh!) many of my friends watch it and "Strong Enough to Break" together, because it is an amazing counterpoint to what Hanson went through - the documentary backs up their story, but it's speaking on the whole and with a broad range of artists, whereas "SETB" is more personal. So they fit together so well!
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Date: 2010-07-09 03:55 pm (UTC)I'm sad that my comment got lost in a sea of the usual stupidity but basically I said that yeah, we wouldn't want the Jonas Bros to follow Hansons lead -- they might end up a real band with integrity then.
Because that's the difference. Hanson may have been unfortunately lumped into the teen idol category but they aren't the mindless pop that the rest of that set produces. Having fame has always been secondary to just being able to produce music they are proud of. People like that honesty.
And like the comment above mentioned the Stephen Jenkins quote about Spin magazine? Spin did write an article on 5 of 5, that was mostly positive. So the whole world may not see it but I think there's a change coming.
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Date: 2010-07-09 11:54 pm (UTC)But yeah, it kind of annoys me when people use Hanson as examples of artists who lost most of their following. Firstly, it is of course unfair to expect them to keep the same level of success as an indie band that they had with major label backing. Especially considering the facts that TTA promo was very poorly organised by their label (thus the fans that didn't set out looking for Hanson but might still buy the records probably mightn't even have heard about it), AND then it took 4 years to get Underneath out - I know myself that I kind of didn't keep up to date with them for the last year or so of recording and only realized they had brought a new album out because I saw it in the shop (this was in Europe, mind you).
Secondly, majorly promoted pop bands that are aimed at early teen audiences are always going to be a passing fad for a lot of their following. I know myself, I listen to very little of the music I liked in my teens. Sure, Hanson has stuck with me cause as I grew up I started to really appreciate the fact that they make real music instead of just thinking they were goodlooking - but for people who kinda fell out of touch after MON, yeah people probably moved on.
What really aggravates me is - if they had never had their MON success and just started out as an indie band I'm sure that their success would be seen as being great AND people would probably respect and enjoy their music. But because of MON, people kinda see anything that's below that level of sucess as them being some flash n the pan thing...
And yeah, the unfortunate thing with todays music industry is people that are against it tend to just assume everyone in it lack talent. Which is really sad because it also damages the music industry since the few real artists that do get success are never recognized for it.
But yeah, at the end of the day, I get the feeling that Hanson are happy with their current level of success. I think they like not being paparazzi fodder, being able to walk down the street and do normal stuff, doing their walks (wouldn't have been so possible back in the day when thousands and thousands of people showed up at any chance to see them), and just generally having that little small close knit fanbase thing going on. So I'm not too bothered if other people don't get it - I just sit here smugly knowing that I can see some genius most people don't. :P
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Date: 2010-07-09 07:53 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-07-09 11:20 pm (UTC)Yeah, sometimes the state of the music industry kind of worries me.... as Zac said in an interview once...
"In fact, much of our generation is being defined by music that they don't really enjoy or identify with or even listen to. Radio doesn't really represent the music that people want to hear. People need to speak up."
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Date: 2010-07-10 07:19 pm (UTC)I wouldn't say it worries me. It bothers me. The same songs are played over and over. It gets annoying. Play new stuff. It's not that hard.