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Alright, after much consideration I have decided to make a second journal for my non-hancest writings. I have started writing slash in a few other fandoms again, so I will actually be posting new material, and yeah, I think incest is potentially offensive to people in other slash fandoms. 

Aaaanyway, for if anyone is interested in reading my non-hancest slash, please friend[info]glambrosiah. :) 

I will also be moving the non-hancest fics from here over to that journal in the next few days. 

I will still be prioritizing this fandom over the others btw, just feel like I need a break from Zaylor now and then to keep myself inspired. ^^

Date: 2010-10-07 09:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brokenangel-25.livejournal.com
im going to add it =)

Date: 2010-10-07 11:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vagarical.livejournal.com
Ok, adding you back. :) Not sure if I will friendslock anything on that journal... I might, I write in some fandoms were the authors are known to sure fanfic writers lol.

Date: 2010-10-09 01:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] itzmagik.livejournal.com
Do you mean "SUE fanfic writers"? :)

It's always interesting how some authors are so protective of their characters (and "intellectual property") - J.K. Rowling famously trying to stomp out fanfic, especially the explicit stuff - and other big-name authors being cool (or at least willfully turning a blind eye to it, if it's not-for-profit Internet stuff only) with people taking the characters and producing their own works out of them - "re-mixing" if you will.

Anyway, don't get sued! :)

Date: 2010-10-09 09:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vagarical.livejournal.com
Lol yah that's what I meant! My typing skills are not quite what they should be hehe...

J.K Rowling I think only out a stop to slash and adult writings - because she felt it wasn't right for her underage characters to have sex, and it went against what she wanted to portray with the books. Which I guess it's fair. I don't write HP fanfic though. But I have written Vampire Chronicles fanfic and Anne Rice is even more protective, she's like to stomp out fanfic all together if she could.

I think what authors don't realize is, for a lot of people fanfic is a huge part of their attraction to certain fandoms. I mean, I've been part of fandoms in the past that I was introduced to through fanfic even. So fanfiction is like a free promotional tool for some authors... though I guess then again, it may not always portray their characters the way the original author intended.

I think it's quite funny to see though, I mean HP fiction is still very prominent on the net and not even particularly hidden, Vampire Chronicles fic went a bit more underground for a while... they can never really come after everyone and with password protected forums and journals most authors can keep writing without showing up on search engines and then it gets hard to come after them. :P

Date: 2010-10-09 11:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] itzmagik.livejournal.com
Anne Rice is wonderfully eccentric in many ways, but you're right, aggressive on anti-fanfic - I always thought it might be a generational thing with her, too, though. Her writing and significant part of her career pre-dated the Internet explosion and fanfic masses (although presumably people were using her characters on a small scale through local print fanzine journals and such). I think it'd be quite different for a young up-and-coming author in their 20s or 30s today, where they "expect" their work to be discussed online or characters used in other writings, parodies, etc.

It always raises an interesting question about who the "art" belongs to. I read an interesting piece once about George Lucas's endless tinkering and reworking of the original three "Star Wars" films (more than just the major revisions with CGI, many laserdisc/DVD releases had all sorts of small changes in sound levels, left/right audio channels, etc.) and all the fans wanted was simply the original movies as they felt nostalgic about, whether or not they were flawed or "incomplete" as Lucas said he always thought. The author raised a good point that once "art" reaches the public, it no longer "belongs" just to its creator, but the public, too - it becomes something different and something more, because of each person's connection to it.

BTW fan of your icon you used here! <3 As someone quipped when that picture surfaced, "I just love that Zac is using Tay's ass as a pillow". Haha.

Date: 2010-10-09 11:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vagarical.livejournal.com
Haha, ohhh yeah, Anne Rice is eccentric, indeed. I swear in her last one or two books of the VC series, her bitterness at people's critique of how she progressed her story came through. To the point where I barely enjoyed reading it. I just didn't like Lestat being all bitter and "I don't give a fuck about anyone but me"... it didn't feel like the same character for me.

Funny, that whole "who owns the art" discussion reminded me of the quote from Zac on the 113 paintings book page in the h.net store... "In a way painting is that most raw reflection of how art is only the artists for a moment, once completed it's given to everyone who touches it."

I think to some degree also, fanfic based on other's works can, imo, fall into that whole "imitation is the sincerest form of flattery" thing. I mean, I've had stories spin off my own fics, and I've had people write responding poems to my poetry, and to me I think fanfic would be the same thing - proof that your created world and your characters stirred the imagination of someone else to the point where they started to imagine different things that are going on in your world... and to me at least, that is very flattering. So I find it hard to understand why some people are so protective of their works.

Date: 2010-10-09 11:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] itzmagik.livejournal.com
Some of your newer icons are looking good! ^ This moody blue one looks great. Did you make them yourself, or find a lucky Photoshop-prowess-possessing soul?

I must also state for the record that your "new" LJ theme cracks me up everytime I see that Isaac is "greyed out" in the banner pic! I love it. It's literally like a piece of software option that is "greyed out" or something - totally a moment between Zac/Tay captured, haha. Well done!

Just now I was looking to find that older article from a few years back that mentioned the George Lucas "ownership of art" example (pretty sure it was either "Wired" or "Slate", both of which do a great job at looking at where art converges with technology) and saw that apparently there's an entire documentary just out this year (and still playing film festivals), "The People vs. George Lucas", which has that question about Star Wars as its central point - looks great. *marks down as a must-watch when out on DVD*

http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/opinions/george-lucas-and-the-ownership-of-art.php has this as the closing paragraph, lol:

"So the question remains: does George Lucas have the right to do whatever he wants with his movies? In my opinion, absolutely. Does it make him a bit of a dick for changing something people love so much and no longer giving them access to the original versions? Absolutely."

:)

BTW, totally never enjoyed Anne Rice's son's (Christopher Rice) writing - it's hard not to get compared to a famous parent who's one of the leading figures in a field, but I thought his manuscript might have gotten no notice at all if he didn't have the famous name/parentage. Mind you, with the re-surge of the "vampire" explosion in the last few years, maybe it would *now* - but not when he originally started publishing!

That is well put in your last paragraph above. I'm kind of a fan, say, of remixes and mashups, especially when remixers take a stab at something from another genre and put their own stamp on it while respecting the integrity of the original.
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