Meme: 30 Days of Hanson - Day 16

[armanya]

I decided to do two today and get caught up to the same day as everyone else since I missed a day at the start of the week.

Day 16: A picture where all 3 of them look really good

ONE picture?! I can't follow rules, I think you guessed that by now.. Inevitable picspam (I just love it when you can gawk at them without being distracted by the fact that one of them looks silly in the pic lol):

Ok I could spam the whole popeater thing cause... they're all so pretty and their outfits are gorgeous and... yeah. :D


Except, Taylor really looks like my (female) cousin here, which freaks me out a tad bit! 

etc. etc. etc. Got bored of picspam now, gonna go write! Toodles!!!

30 Days of Hanson
Day 01: Your favorite brother
Day 02: Your favorite song
Day 03: Your favorite award that Hanson has won
Day 04: Your favorite radio/video interview
Day 05: Your favorite album
Day 06: Favorite picture of Isaac
Day 07: Favorite picture of Taylor
Day 08: Favorite picture of Zac
Day 08: Most hilarious FUTY
Day 09: Favorite music video
Day 10: Best collaboration between Hanson & another artist
Day 11: A picture of the boys that makes you smile
Day 12: Your favorite icon
Day 13: Favorite track on Middle of Nowhere
Day 14: Hottest magazine photoshoot
Day 15: Favorite live performance
Day 16: A picture where all 3 of them look really good
Day 17: Favorite track on This Time Around
Day 18: A picture that makes you go "WTF?"
Day 19: Favorite of Taylor's hairstyles
Day 20: Favorite of Isaac's hairstyles
Day 21: Favorite of Zac's hairstyles
Day 22: Favorite track on Underneath
Day 23: Most fashionable Taylor outfit
Day 24: Goofiest Zac Moment
Day 25: Nerdiest Isaac Moment
Day 26: Favorite track on The Walk
Day 27: Most hilarious LIVESTREAM
Day 28: Best Hanson quote
Day 29: Favorite TV appearance
Day 30: Favorite track on Shout it Out

Comments

[itzmagik.livejournal.com]

Especially if he really is messing around with Zac. lol

^^ OhHellyeah!!! THIS. lol.

I still flirt with my theory that he's "ugly-fying" himself to hide who he is, or denying the side of himself that wants to be well-groomed and all, well, pretty. Like people with low self-confidence wearing ill-fitting or old clothes, or doing extreme unflattering things with their hair or intentionally keeping weight high.

I keep wondering if one day he's going to leave Natalie and burst out (a coming-out party, if you will) all stylin' in killer clothes, well-groomed hair and stubble-removed face. "I'm Taylor, I'm back, and I'm FABULOUS!". Like, not deny how beautiful he is. Sadly, I think his religious upbringing and messages drilled in, and the fact that he's committed to Natalie, might have him living a lie the rest of his life. If in fact he is! Just my theory.

[itzmagik.livejournal.com]

Yeah.

By the way, did you ever put any stock in that theory that Michelle Branch's "Hotel Paper" was about him? I was revisiting that song this week after seeing her in the "SETB" DVD. It's a beauty as a song, IMHO.

But the lines like "I'd be out of line telling you 'leave her' / So I lie lonely surrounded by you" and "I wanted to be / Giving you everything, she's not giving" were interpreted by some to be about a little "thing" they had and him never going to leave Natalie, and Michelle seeing him on TV, magazines constantly for promo, etc.

There were these pictures as well, and this is like 5+ years ago now, of Tay and Michelle at some party/event and they were both a bit flushed and sweaty and their body language was pretty "interesting". I'll be damned if I can find them (I don't think I saved a copy, or lost them), I think they were Gettyimages/Wireimage at the time too (now since disappeared off with age), but even the "puritanical", self-censoring H.net crowd was like "Woah, um...?" and one post was like "They look like they just had some really aggressive sex. Sorry, have to say it. :( "

Anyway, Michelle's basically denied the song is about him, or any one person - moreso life on the road and missing friends and boyfriends, etc. But of course she *has* to say that.

What do you think?

Hanson should cut some lousy demo version of the song for some bonus CD or membership kit or something, just to get people talking again. I think Natalie would kill him for that, though. :)


Michelle Branch, "Hotel Paper":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odKlB7_Z2-o

[vagarical.livejournal.com]

You never know, maybe Nat and Tay have an open relationship and she knows stuff goes on and is fine with it. Considering rumours that she wanted to marry Taylor Hanson before she even met him I can kinda imagine her putting up with stuff just to be his wife. Not saying that's what I really believe but you know, we really see so little of their family life, who knows?

I always hoped the Michelle rumours were true, in my opinion they seemed like a good pairing! I'm kind surprised that none of them ended up marrying a musician actually... but then I guess a fellow musician wouldn't have time to take part in their baby making schemes. :P

I do think though that either Tay or Zac or possibly both just... cannot have married the perfect person. Sorry for being a huge unromantic cynic but two best friends just happening to be the perfect women for two famous brothers... yeah, that sounds like a fairy tale that I find it hard to believe in... And I can imagine, if either of them had wanted to break it off, that would have been an awkward situation.

I hope I'm wrong though, I'd prefer them to be happy ofc.

[itzmagik.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I could see Natalie "looking the other way", especially if it's guys Tay is getting on the side, and maybe if it were girls? I don't put much faith in those "Hansonsecrets" communities, but I'd seen more than one post theorizing that Natalie's so terrified Tay might leave her, that that's part of the reason why they keep cranking out the babies, and it's not the craziest theory I've read. Who knows.

I totally wanted Michelle and Taylor to end up together, too! They would have been cute together, I thought - not just physically, but their vibe and the fact that they seem to have mutual respect for each other as musicians. The romantic in me kinda always loved the way they looked at each other, or even when they were trying not to (like some of the footage of them on "SETB" working out a song). I also thought it would make sense for them to marry a musician because they understand the temperament and creative forces/processes, instinctively. Actually, I thought I remember reading that Michelle Branch married her *producer*, but I looked it up just now and she's married to her bass player, Teddy Landau, since May 2004 - so she did land a musician.

Michelle is still pretty active around the Twitter-sphere around Hanson. I saw a cute post from her on Mackenzie Hanson's Twitter stream to the effect that he's always like a little brother to her and she can't believe how awesome it is seeing him grow up.

I always got a bit of a funny vibe with Zac/Kate dating, much less married, in what seemed like such a circumstantial clone of what Tay did. But who knows what goes on behind clothes doors - maybe Zac and Kate really are into each other. I guess it seems stupid to say "Who are we to comment on their private relationship?" after all this theorizing in this LJ thread, rofl.

[vagarical.livejournal.com]

Hehe, well when I theorize here it's not necessarily my actual beliefs on everything. This is my fiction journal and on it... I just find it interesting to discuss these things. It can insire stories. In public I tend to just kind of turn the blinders on and not care much about their relationships at all. There is too much fandom drama around their marriages! (Except Ike's, but then seeing him and Nikki... who could argue that she isn't just really sweet and that they don't look so totally in love!)

Actually, part of the reason I think Nat might be ok with stuff isn't only that she wanted to marry Tay... sometimes I wonder.... I mean, they obviously kinda had to get married when she got pregnant. Maybe, at the end of the day, when she got to know Tay he wasn't the person she really wanted to marry either. Maybe she wants it to be open as much as him. You know, everyone just assumes she wanted to trap him but hey, maybe she actually is just as trapped as he is.

I really don't think they're popping out babies cause she is terrified of him leaving. Ok maybe it's why she agrees to it but Taylor has always kinda said he wanted a big family... I mean he was in his teens and already knew he was gonna have "an army of Hanson's!" haha (bless him). But I don't know when you see them together... she seems quite comfortable with her role? And quite confident in their marriage. Ofc you never know what goes on behind closed doors but...

Yeah it seems to me that marrying fellow musicians would make sense... especially for Tay and Zac who seem to live music to an even bigger extent than Ike does. (I actually think it suits him better not to be with a musician, he strikes me as someone who would appreciate that chance to just get away from the hustle of the industry when he comes home.) But then, maybe non-musicians help to keep them in touch with the real world a little. ^^

And yeah Michelle seems to be pretty involved in the Hanson sphere still. A while back I remember Tay and her tweeting to eachother about where to eat in whatever place it was she was at the time haha. I was thinking he should probably have a private twitter to tweet with her on if he doesn't want rumours. xD I also find it a bit amusing that Nat follows Michelle on twitter... keep your friends close and your enemies closer ey. ^^

Just... don't get me started on Zac and Kate. He seems so uncomfortable with her. They are just... so different. And he was so young when they started dating and just never really dated anyone else. And yeah, she is Nat's best friend (as far as I know they started dating around the same time? I remember seeing a picture of the two couples around the time they first started going out anyway). I try to believe that he is just uncomfortable being public about his relationship but... I don't know. It seems so off.

But yeah, at the end of the day as much as I want them to be happy... well, even if they're not, that's their choice.

But still, the only reason I'd be surprised if it didn't last is with Zac being so super religious I don't see him getting a divorce.

[itzmagik.livejournal.com]

Jessica Harp! There's a name I haven't heard literally in years. I remember when H.net was really promoting her and tried to whip the fans into a frenzy over supporting her. Actually, that was one of the first times I saw their business/promotion side applied to others, and the fact they could leverage H.net for that (I had thought this was way ahead of the cuve for "social network marketing"), and being impressed that they could throw their heft and name behind her and fans started checking her out. So it didn't seem that much a stretch to me when they started 3CG Records!

My previous GettyImages search failed, but I tried again and found at least two photos from the event I spoke about! December 2003, after Tay was with Natalie and turns out Michelle would marry the next year. The ones I saw were much larger and higher-res, and there were 5 or 6 of Michelle and Taylor sitting together on the couch, and their body language seemed to be painting a particular story - but who knows. (I remember when Hansonhouse forum poster quipping at the time, "Oh, there's Tay, Michelle and Michelle's vagina. Geez that dress is down a little low and up a little high." Here's the two I could find from GettyImages:

http://i750.photobucket.com/albums/xx145/itzmagik/Hanson/97328651.jpg

http://i750.photobucket.com/albums/xx145/itzmagik/Hanson/97328658.jpg


Love the misidentification of Tay as Isaac. And Ben Jelen's (those lips!) all like "I want some of that" about Taylor.

"UNITED STATES - DECEMBER 10: Michelle Branch and musician Isaac Hanson get together as recording artist Ben Jelen watches at a Maxim magazine party at Marquee, a new club on 10th Ave. Branch adorns the mag's January cover. Date created: 10 Dec 2003"

[vagarical.livejournal.com]

Ohhh yes that one! I only have one picture from that and it's of only Taylor and Ben.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b362/bloodandglitter/Hanson/Taylor/21051_263066126920_568986920_395311.jpg

But yeah, I remember them being snuggly - and I remember thinking he looks so... ok, well, firstly, wasted lol. (Sorry it's just so really weird when you see pics of any of Hanson drunk cause it's so rare!) But apart from that he seems so relaxed! He really just seems to be himself. And his clothes look good!

Btw, wasn't there actually a rumour about Taylor and Ben Jelen too? Or was that just a story I read. Now I can't remember.

But I have to say Tay and Ben look as good together as Tay and Michelle do hahahah.

I do have to say though, when Tay and Nat first started dating it was obvious they were in love. But I also think that Tay and Michelle had some obvious chemistry that surpassed what he had/has with Nat.

[itzmagik.livejournal.com]

Yeah, lol, the two most common comments on those pics seemed to be that everyone thought he looked either wasted or that him (and her) had that post-fucking "glow" about them. His clothes look great, yeah. I love that shade of purple on him, like its collar too, and the brown leather looks good.

Yeah, there were Ben Jelen rumors, and these went outside the Hanson community and started cropping up on gay forum/rumor boards. (And why do I lurk these, you might ask, lol? Because of the whipsmart 'tude, the fact they break news pretty quickly, and the fact that, um, they're all into hot guys? Count me in! I really never have the interest to post, but I'm an enthusiastic lurker!) I kept reading this persistent one about Ben loving to be rimmed by Taylor, lol. (Take this thread on Tay for instance of what's out there, a lot of pages to wade through, but post 138 on this page is one I kept seeing.) But you know rumours, one person can be posting these all over the place without a shread of truth and it's spreading by that poster's own hand. Doesn't mean anything, except possibly inspiring fanfic/slash plots!

I totally have wanted to write some dedicated slash with Tay and Ben Jelen though. Ben's so pretty! I'm thinking of a "flashback" type speculating what happened when they got together. :)

Love this Ben shot:
http://i750.photobucket.com/albums/xx145/itzmagik/Hanson/ben5.jpg

[vagarical.livejournal.com]

Oh wow I've never lurked around forums like that but whoah. I know the gay scene is rife with rumours (which is why I normally stay out of it) but there was a really true post in there pointing out that if guys get a guy that's conceived as straight to bend over for him, he will probably boast about it. I do have to agree with there being some truth in that!

And honestly, to me, there are too many extramarital / Taylor being with guys rumours for me to not start to believe they hold a shred of truth.

I have to say though, the rumours that Taylor cried and was heartbroken on his last night as a single man always makes me feel so sorry for him. I really hope they are not true but I can imagine with all the other shit going on in his life at that point, if he really did not want to marry Nat, things can't have been easy for him.

Also, I think their privacy about their lives is almost their curse sometimes - if they were more open there would be less room for hurtful rumours...

[vagarical.livejournal.com]

You know - sometimes I wonder if Nat dresses him. Seriously, if I was with Tay I'd be torn between making him look as ugly as possible (and you can't make him very ugly at all) to keep other women off and dressing him up to be as pretty as possible.

But then, Taylor has always had a weird sense of fashion. Maybe he actually thinks all these ridiculous ensembles look good...

But then on the other hand he looks sooooo good sometimes! Like the popeater shoot I frigging love the jacket he has on in that the cut suits him so well. (Sure, it might be a tad girly, but he looks so good in it).

So either he knows how to dress well and just doesn't bother most of the time, or he has a ridiculous fashion sense and just manages to look great now and then by pure luck.

I would go for the second, cause otherwise he had a lot of luck in the early 00s when his dress sense was great!

I'm not so sure that he's living a lie btw... well I'm not sure how in love with Natalie he was but... the gay thing? I don't think he is. I know he acts it half the time though, so I could be wrong heh. So far I've been right about most celebs I thumbed as being gay though. Which makes me scared when I sometimes wonder if Zac is...

[itzmagik.livejournal.com]

LOL - I do like that theory about Natalie being torn between how to dress him. Maybe if she's particularly pissed at him for whatever reason, or he's got a wandering eye that particular week/month/tour, she puts together the most horrid things and he's so clueless that he happily does it. "Oh hey, Tay, here's some vintage jeans, a tight white t-shirt, red suspenders and rainbow socks...man it looks GREAT on you! It's sort of in a new style that's starting to come back, too. Trust me!"

My one theory too is that he's never really dressing himself, even when he looks good. Obviously many photoshoots bring their own wardrobe and style consultants with them, though moreso back in the day when they were doing promotion for the label or a magazine or something, rather than a lot of the independent "self-arranged" newer photo shoots. So "TTA" and post-"TTA" outfits might be just a result of a stylist helping them out, maybe even on the record company's payroll, as all part of public appearances, promotion and touring.

Yeah, lots of people pick up a Tay gay vibe (or at least pansexual/bisexual), so that's the obvious conclusion they might come to, but who *really* knows. Maybe the mystery is part of what keeps us speculating like this, or keeps the authors writing fanfic. I never particularly got a gay vibe from Zac, though - just kinda a "wild-and-crazy" impulsive guy thing, more like a fratboy thing where he'd scream out ridiculous things or do silly stunts. Like an overgrown kid at times - but he also has a serious side. I do get a special vibe between him and Tay, which is way slash is so cool (and seemingly plausible - I mean, the "suspension of disbelief" doesn't take much effort).

What are some of the reasons you get the gay vibe about Zac? I'm really curious! Maybe I'm not looking hard enough. ;) Enlighten me so I can weigh the factors, lol!

[vagarical.livejournal.com]

Well I'm not sure that they still have a fulltime stylist? Though I guess for shows and stuff they most likely do. But like on the walks and stuff I'm sure they dress themselves (and actually, Tay looks good on most walk pics) - same when they're just lounging in the studio.

I really can't put my finger on what gives me gay vibes. Maybe it's just that he seems so uncomfortable with his wife. Or he has this kind of weird... like almost sadness about him. As if he's never quite himself. I really don't know I just know there have been a few moments when I have wondered and in the past when I have thought that about celebs almost noone else thought were gay I was right heh. But then maybe it's just cause I fancy him and every single man I ever was attracted to was either bi or gay (though not particularly effeminate). Cause I'm very great at picking them for some reason lol.

But I kinda don't think he is cause I've never heard one other person think so and tbh they have enough gay male fans that if there was some real gay vibe off of him someone would have picked up on it more clearly than me.

[itzmagik.livejournal.com]

Yeah, re: the stylist, I probably didn't word my post very well! I don't think they have a stylist "on staff" these days, I just meant when they were with Mercury/Island Def Jam, even a few years post-"TTA" while they were still on the roster, that it might be part of what's provided for their appearances, photoshoots, etc., so perhaps all the great past photos/looks we love so much isn't Tay's style coming through, it's all been done for him. So it explains the contrast to now, when some of what he's wearing isn't very charming or coordinated.

I know what you mean about Zac, there's this melancholy streak. I wrote about it a bit before in a comment, I think here or over at 0htheirony's LJ (and darned if I can find it now), but part of me thinks he's a bit resentful that he didn't really "choose" this career or life - he was the youngest member when he was recording "MON" at 11 and I always got the sense he could be a bit moody/bitter because nobody really "asked" him if that's what he wanted for the rest of his life, and what 11 year old knows, anyway? There's examples where he's flipping the bird to fans, retreating quickly to the tour bus while Ike and Tay meet the fans, etc. but he's also human, and everyone has their moods.

I think he's a lot more complex than some people would think - people would want to pigeon-hole him as the "jokester" or most down-to-earth guy in the group. But I have a lot of guy friends who are wonderful creative artists - musicians, visual artists, writers - and most of them have their moody or unhappy sides, as it's what the artist taps into.

Re: The uncomfortableness, did you see #4 in this, and some of the discussion in the thread? I've seen other photos/videos of their family where the body language seems to tell something (my favorite are the videos where Zac is playing with his son and Kate's looking on practically disapprovingly, can never understand that), but it can also be awkward being photographed, especially when you're a mom with your child and looking out for them, so who knows, really.

For me with Zac, I get the Zaylor vibe in part because I think of Tay being so special to Zac that it defies any gender boundaries he has or whatever. That when Tay walks up behind him, strokes his hair and says, "Are you doing okay, baby?", he'd totally melt, lol. It's not so much that Zac seeks out random dick but rather he thinks of what he has with Tay as being special and defying any words/labels. ;)

[vagarical.livejournal.com]

Haha you might be right about the stylist thing! The thing I find with Taylor is that he has a basic sense of what he looks good in... like his tight trousers OMG yes please! Actually, a lot of the time, every bit of his outfit looks good as a singular piece. His issue comes with trying to piece them together - coordinating styles and colours just does not seem to be his thing lol. But I think he has a nice instinct for what looks good on him just a manly blind eye for what actually goes together. Or else he is trying too hard not to look gay cause so many people whisper about it? I'm not sure.

As for Zac, I have to say I don't think he is resentful about the music. I think Zac honestly loves that part. He obviously loves being on stage. And his most animated moments seem to be when he is performing / talking about the music / generally doing music or band related stuff.

But, the creative personality thing is an opinion I have long held. I'm gonna take the liberty of applying my own example to this - I have always had a creative streak (though more towards writing than music), I used to make up stories and tell my mum before I could write... and I think, extremely creative people just have this sort of... disconnect from the world. I know I do - and I can imagine from the songs Zac write that he had that same creative personality. It's like you don't quite belong in the world or interact with it, but you are just an observer to everything. A lot of the time, this makes it very difficult for me to interact with and connect with other people. And I can imagine, if I was in a similar position of fame with people just expecting things from you, I would find that very difficult to deal with at times. I mean some days I'm fine interacting with people, but a lot of the time face to face interactions are just really difficult for me. Which is why I end up spending lots of time chatting with random people online. xD

I don't know a lot of things about Zac just makes me believe he has a really similar personality. He is the one that interacts most actively with fans online. And I have seen lots of videos of him being really sweet with fans and heard lots of people say he was really awesome to them. I think it just depends on how you approach him. I guess he maybe doesn't do fakeness, if he doesn't like you he doesn't like you.

I've never seen that cause I don't read hansonsecrets. But yes I thought of those things when I saw the picture. And the video of Zac playing I agree! I thought the same thing first time I saw it.

I also reacted to this in the VH1 one:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b362/bloodandglitter/Hanson/Zac/zackatehm.jpg

In the clips of Tay and Nat, they are very close (I seem to remember there being a clip of them kissing), but in this bit of Zac and Kate Zac seems to be leaning away from her. :S

I also think the fact that Kate was after Isaac first... it's very telltale that she was after a Hanson - I personally think it was more that she wanted to stay close to her bff than a fame thing or wanted a Hanson brother particularly. Which is why I think she is apparently the rudest to fans (though I have no personal experience but I rarely hear anyone defend her whereas Nat and Nikki are constantly defended so putting two and two together here and hoping I'm not making 5) - I don't think she is particularly interested in the fame. She also seems a little overbearing and yes disapproving.... like she wants to mold Zac into someone he isn't. Maybe I'm reading too much into it but really they seem nothing alike!

[itzmagik.livejournal.com]

I wanted to say I think you nailed something there with your "creative personality" paragraph. Completely! And it's cool you shared your own example. I have aspects of that in my personality myself, and understand it when my friends around me of the same temperament have it too.

It also has to do with, I think, that many creative individuals have an introverted personality rather than being extroverts. (Not all - lots of examples of extroverts out there. But the introverts have to be at least 50% of the types! :) ) Perhaps it's that inward-looking, self-reflecting nature that makes them turn to things with the imagination that result in good creative output. I'm a writer (non-fiction) and musician, and my parents always told me even when I was small I would sort of sit on the "sidelines" at group storytime or sporting events for kids and drink it all in, observing, the wheels turning in my head. That "witness" to the world is something I've heard so many writers talk about as part of their personality traits - documenting what goes on, and seeing the cool nuances of the people, or places, or activities that happen while you do that.

And introverts, they say, tend to get exhausted or worn down in big groups - need quiet or alone time to recharge. An extrovert might love to go parties or go clubbing, because extroverts (in general) get fired up from interacting with a lot of people and big groups. BTW, there's some cool books on all this stuff, like "The Introvert Advantage", "Introvert Power: Why Your Inner Life Is Your Hidden Strength" and such, or something like "The Artist's Way" about applying creative power for those who haven't tapped into it. If you combine an introvert personality with someone really working on their "art", and needing some time to focus on, and incubate it - whether a writer, musician, painter, whatever - it can certainly translate into some "Get the hell away from me, everybody!" time. :) My artist friends are like that at different periods and everyone understands it and doesn't take it personality.

About Zac's personality, yeah. You know that earlier forum thread? See "reply 129" here, and maybe it's like that. It depends on your attitude on things and, as you say, how you approach him. Actually Zac may be balancing the extrovert/introvert thing really well (I always heard more people should try to develop both those sides of themselves, it makes for being really well-rounded - I agree!), that he's more reflective and contemplative than some would think, but he's got the stage persona thing goin' on too.

BTW, 0:55-1:04 of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNnvuh-Hvbo , lol! So cute. Just was watching that again last night. Try to ignore the disapproving kind of glance that develops after a few seconds from Zac's right side. :) :-/ Penny talking about her hat? Adorable.

Yeah - Tay's individual clothes often work, but it's the putting them together. Mind you, a lot of guys fail in this department - they'll buy different things at different times that are great, but have no concept on how to combine them. So maybe Tay isn't that much different than Joe Average Straight Guy here, or maybe *cue conspiracy theory music* he's trying to act totally "un-gay" that he goes overboard and wears combinations that even regular straight guys would easily recognize as being pretty atrocious.

Hope you are having a decent day!

[vagarical.livejournal.com]

Yeah I kind of ended up babbling and forgetting to mention the introvert thing haha. I think the introvert personality is what makes me feel disconnected from the world. ^^

And I'll agree that big groups are really hard for me to take. I enjoy going out with just a small close group of friends or just one other person, but big parties has never been my thing. And I was also the kid watching from the sidelines! I remember sitting alone on breaks a lot of school, and I remember teachers worrying about it. But I also remember being perfectly happy just sitting around observing what went on around me. I was never left out, I didn't participate out of choice. It's annoying actually cause when I write I like to be completely alone but I always seem to have trouble in relationships with my partner taking it personally as if I don't want to spend time with them.

Zac definitely has a stage persona I think, or at least a pretty split personality haha. I remember in 98 Isaac made a comment somewhere about how they sometimes thought Zac was schizophrenic and I also remember Taylor commenting on how deep some of Zac's songs were to the point where he was like "wait, how old are you again?". It's funny really how Zac seems to have developed into the creative force in the band - not that Tay and Ike aren't great song writers and musicians but Zac seems to be on a different level entirely! His songs are often kind of unstructured somehow, like he's working more from instinct than following some rules as to how things should go. I really love it. :D

Penny and her hat is so cuuutteee. <3 I just noticed, in the clip where they are talking to Zac and Kate where Kate is holding Shep - Zac is turned towards her and open and smiley (though his adoring look seems reserved for his son?) but Kate seems to kind of be shying away from him? Weird. Oh well, maybe they had a fight that morning or something lol.

Oh my God don't even get me started at how men fail at putting stuff together! Haha, the trying not to be gay theory is so funny - I wish I could believe that's what he is but I think he might just be completely colourblind. :P

I'm having an okay day had to take a nap cause the heat gave me a migraine but now it's raining and cooling off so getting better! Hope your day is good too. :)

[vagarical.livejournal.com]

I think the Zaylor thing you said is so true. It's weird cause I always think whatever about the rest of Zaylor being true, it feels to me that there is a certain truth in it in that Zac kind of needs Taylor. Zac looks at his happiest when he has at least Taylor with him (though that could be the music thing) - and even when they were younger, I remember so many interviews and performances where Zac would say something / do a solo and then shoot Taylor this look almost as if he wanted approval. And all the whispering and the glancing that still goes on? Yeah, whatever it is they are so close. And their body language always speaks miles, they tend to have their bodies open to eachother / sit close / put their hands flat against eachothers bodies (this is one of the key signs of a lack of reservation about touching someone). I mean I'm really close with my sister but they are... something else.

/end ramble.